Subject: Re: [Legs] Fw: Fw: SSN and driver's license

A couple notes:

I would ask the DOL for documents showing its authority to require you to obtain a federal identification number, an SSN, for the sole purpose of obtaining a driver's license (ref. chpt. 42.17 RCW). If you were to ask the SS for a number for that sole purpose, they'd say "NOPE."

The truth is, without identification, the DOL still has to issue the license, it just has to say it's not for identification (see "Notes," below).

As long as you are doing a little administrative law work, you might send the DOL notice that you elect to not waive your rights protected under article one, section seven and nine of the constitution and, therefore, to not give "IMPLIED CONSENT" (RCW 46.20.308, RCW 46.20.3101 and RCW 46.20.911)to warrantless searches or waive your right to avoid giving incriminating information against yourself.

NOTE:

"Driver's Licenses - RCW 46.20.35 (5)

    If the applicant [for a license] is unable to prove his or her identity under this section, the department shall plainly label the license 'not valid for identification purposes.'"

    An individual operating or traveling in an automobile does not lose all reasonable expectation of privacy simply because the automobile and its use are subject to government regulation. Automobile travel is a basic, pervasive, and often necessary mode of transportation to and from one's home, workplace, and leisure activities. Many people spend more hours each day traveling in cars than walking on the streets.

    Undoubtedly, many find a greater sense of security and privacy in traveling in an automobile than they do in exposing themselves by pedestrian or other modes of travel. Were the individual subject to unfettered governmental intrusion every time he entered an automobile, the security guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment would be seriously circumscribed. . . ." Mesiani, 110

Wn.2d at 457 (quoting Delaware v. Prouse, 440 U.S. 648, 662-63, 99 S. Ct.

1391, 59 L. Ed. 2d 660 (1979) (footnote omitted))."  State v. Parker, 139

Wash.2d 486, 987 P.2d 73(1999)

- - - - - - - - -

Another important note on SSN's and licenses:

Ask for the policy and procedure (RCW 42.17.250) for issuing licenses to anyone not having an SSN.  At the same time, ask for DOL's discrimination policies.